NJ Transit congestion a thing of the past?

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From NJ.com:

The federal government issued final approval today for a second commuter rail tunnel beneath the Hudson River. ... For decades, officials have dreamed of a second rail tunnel to ease the load on the 100-year-old tunnel now in place. NJ Transit commuters alone make 170,000 trips through the tunnel each day, pushing it to its functional limit. The new tunnel would double peak capacity to 48 trains per hour from the current 23 trains per hour.

Is there a chance this gets done in time to help any of us?  Our kids?

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Give up on the bullet train idea already. Don't those trains need special tracks? They built special tracks for the Acela train farther north on the Northeast Corridor line. Look at the Metuchen train station. Is there room there for another track? No. Do we want Amtrak coming through and taking property to build another track? I don't think so.

Sad to say based on the various newspaper articles this is the bad design that dumps people north of Penn without a direct connection to the 7th & 8th Ave subways and will be as deep or deeper than the Lexington Ave E station - not an attractive prospect.

A new tunnel would ease congestion. Even though there might not be more trains from Metuchen to NY, the ones we have would, in theory, have fewer delays and we might actually return to the 40 minute ride we used to have.

Schedule for the morning peak hour in Metuchen:

7:01, 7:08, 7:18, 7:29, 7:40, 7:46, 7:52, 8:02, 8:11 and so on.

My question is, sure, the tunnels free up, but how many more trains can fit in our station during those time slots. I would imagine there has to be some safety laws in place saying trains can't be closer together.

I doubt that a new tunnel would have much if any effect on Metuchen.

I need to see a drawing of the proposed route before I can be optimistic. The last plan they floated for this tunnel did not run directly into Penn Station but terminated north of Penn and did not connect to any subway lines. When this tunnel was originally proposed oer 20 years ago, it was supposed to be an additional tunnel directly into Penn Station.

The US is quite a bit bigger than some of those other places. Makes it much more difficult to expect to have the same mass transit system. Would you really want to get on a train that goes to LA from here?

That being said, will congestion go away in our lifetime? Doubtful, and once it is built, I don't see things being less congested. California built more roads, but they still have terrible traffic. Also, unless you build new platforms in Penn Station, you still would have to wait for platforms at times.

I agree. The mass transit system, especially in the MEtro area, needs serious investment. AND, thanks to environmental concerns, more and more people are taking advantage of mass transit.

WOuld be nice to see more investment in mass transit in our country. For Gods sake, there are no bullet trains in our country, but they have them just about everywhere else in the world. France has them but we don't? It is almost as if there was a effort to degrade the rail transit systems for past 20 years.

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